Tubal Reversal Blog ‘tubal ligation reversal specialist’

To the patients of the Chapel Hill Tubal Reversal Center message board, sorry. It has been a long time since I last posted a blog. I have worked six to seven days a week for the last eight years and sometimes 36-hour shifts in the hospital. Needless to say, many sleepless nights and long hours. Recently, I completed a six-month training period with Dr. Gary Berger while at the same time, working in the hospital and delivering babies. Before starting my new career at Chapel Hill Tubal Reversal Center, I took some time off to be with my family and now I am back!

It has been a long process to become a tubal ligation reversal specialist, but well worth it.

My path to become a specialist in tubal ligation reversal actually started 18 months ago when I first made contact with Dr. Berger. Six months of meetings, followed by six months of tubal ligation reversal training has gone by quite fast. This week has gone by even faster. Monday, July 21 was my first ‘official’ day with Chapel Hill Tubal Reversal Center. As I write this blog, this is my fourth day of surgery and we have completed 16 tubal ligation reversals thus far. So far, we have had nothing but success. All patients this week have had at least one tube opened or successfully reversed. I hope they will all become pregnant.

My first day untying tubes was wonderful, and all of the surgeries went well. Each day has been both a challenge and a joy. Dr. Berger and I are doing four reversal surgeries a day. I help him with his two patients and he helps me with my two patients. We have been working very well together and the staff at the center have been great and very accommodating.

The best thing about my new career has been the patients. The patients have been wonderful people to work with. I have the opportunity to meet patients from all over the United States and from all walks of life. They each have a unique story to tell. They have been wonderful individuals and couples who desire either more children or improvement in their menstrual symptoms. In the first three days of my new job I received more ‘Thank you Doctor….’ than I did in eight years as a general Ob/Gyn.

I think this will be the beginning of a long and lovely career…..

Over a year ago, I approached Dr. Berger at Chapel Hill Tubal Reversal Center to start a new career as a tubal ligation reversal specialist. When I started to pursue my interest and training in tubal reversal surgery, I naively thought that only women who wanted to have another child had their tied tubes untied. I have come to realize that some women seek to have their tubes untied for many reasons other than to have another child after tubal ligation.

Of course the number one reason is to have more children, but there are many more and equally important reasons patients give. Some common reasons patients come for tubal ligation reversal are to:

• relieve symptoms associated with a tubal ligation (PTLS)
• feel whole again
• be like God intended them to be
• comply with their religious tenants
• feel more like a woman
• relieve regret of a prior mistake
• correct a decision made during a bad relationship
• fill the emptiness from the loss of a child or another loved one

As a generalist ob/gyn, I was always keenly aware of how many women bore both the burden of having children and the burden of sterilization. It was only after I became a ligation reversal specialist I saw how heavy the burden of tubal ligation could be. Now I have the opportunity to help in these situations and feel gratified that my training as a tubal reversal surgeon is progressing nicely under Dr. Berger’s mentorship.

Submitted by Dr. Charles Monteith
Tubal Reversal Specialist
Chapel Hill Tubal Reversal Center

Dr. Gary Berger is leading the way in the specialty of tubal ligation reversal. Performing over 7,000 tubal reversals, Dr. Berger developed and refined the only one-hour, outpatient tubal reversal surgery using microsurgical techniques.

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Submitted by Dr. Monteith
Chapel Hill Tubal Reversal Center

Many doctors will give you less than a warm response when you ask about tubal ligation reversal. Ever wonder why?

I would like to use myself as an example. I started my obstetrics and gynecology (ob/gyn) residency in July 1997 and finished in June 2001. I never saw a single tubal reversal operation performed at the university where I trained. Not one. I saw many unusual and rare things, but I never saw a tubal ligation reversal. I am not alone. Many other doctors would probably tell you the same thing if you asked them.

Lack of Familiarity or Training

Most doctors- especially those who have trained within the last 15 years – are unfamiliar with tubal ligation reversal. The reason is simple. Ligation reversal is considered elective surgery. As a result, these procedures are rarely done in hospitals. Therefore, doctors in training get little or no exposure to these surgical procedures. Because of this, most doctors have little knowledge about these types of operations.

Sometimes doctors in training will reason that if they never saw a particular operation, the surgery does not exist because it is not beneficial and may even be harmful. Of course, this is faulty reasoning.

I would have never thought ligation reversal is an effective surgery if it were not for a three minute experience I had when I was a second year resident doing my reproductive endocrinology rotation.

I was with a physician who was the head of our reproductive endocrinology department. We were counseling a 38-year-old patient who was married, had a tubal ligation and wanted to become pregnant again. At the conclusion of her visit, she had asked what she should do? Since I had seen every patient with fallopian tube problems treated with in-vitro fertilization (IVF), I mumbled to myself, “We are going to recommend you get IVF.” Before I could finish my mumbled response, the director said, “I recommend you get a tubal ligation reversal.” My mouth dropped open! Why did we recommend an operation that we did not perform and one I had never seen? I remember exactly what he said next, “We can do this procedure for you. The cost of tubal reversal will be $15,000 here at the hospital. I recommend you talk with Dr. Gary Berger, a tubal reversal specialist who does them for considerably less cost.”

After the conversation, I asked him why we didn’t do tubal reversal procedures at our hospital. He responded, “Charles, we have to charge patients more for this surgery in the hospital. Since patients have to pay out of pocket, most people will be unable to afford the surgery with us. This is a great procedure for her because she will have the ability to get pregnant many times.”

“But isn’t the success rate less than 50 percent?”, I asked. He dropped his glasses down, looked over the rims and told me in a very direct voice, “No! In the best of hands, the success rate is 80 percent.” Somehow he seemed offended that I thought he had recommended a bad treatment.

This conversation happened in 1998. I filed this brief exchange in my memory and mostly forgot about it for the rest of my training.

Other Mistaken Ideas Doctors May Have

Many doctors might say a general ob/gyn resident would not see any of these surgeries while training, but a doctor in training as a reproductive endocrinologist would. Unfortunately, this is not true. I had two friends who trained to be reproductive endocrinology specialists. One did two tubal reversals over a three year period of training, the other did none.

It is unfortunate that my friends, who had little or no experience with reversal surgery, are going to be the same doctors who will counsel patients about it. No wonder they routinely recommend IVF – a treatment that they received almost exclusive training in during their fellowship programs.

Why I Came to Chapel Hill Tubal Reversal Center

I hope my personal experience can illustrate why general ob/gyn doctors may not support their patients who want to have their tubal ligations reversed, and why reproductive specialists mostly do IVF. I view tubal ligation reversal as a disappearing surgical skill that may not be available to patients in the future. This is why I asked to join Dr. Berger’s staff at Chapel Hill Tubal Reversal Center. To help women with tubal ligations who want to get pregnant is the reason why I have decided to embark on the path to become a tubal ligation reversal specialist.

Tying Tubes

Many people seem to imagine the fallopian tube is like a shoe lace that is tied in a bow to prevent pregnancy. As a tubal ligation reversal specialist, I wish it were that simple- then reversing tied tubes would be a whole lot easier!

Perhaps a well meaning doctor may have told a patient one day, “I am going to tie your tubes so you don’t get pregnant.” Maybe the doctor wrote a letter to a medical journal explaining the procedure and then the terminology stuck. More likely, a reporter may have simplified the terminology for the surgical procedure of tubal ligation to make a catchy title for an article. Others may then have started using the term “tying tubes” to quickly explain a complex procedure. These explanations often have a long life span and make their way into common language.

The more accurate terminology is bilateral tubal occlusion (closure of both fallopian tubes) which results in sterilization (not being able to conceive). There are many ways to perform bilateral tubal occlusion. The most common tubal sterilization procedure is performed at the time of cesearean delivery (c-section) or immediately after having a baby. It does involve tying the tubes with a suture – but then also cutting out a segment of healthy tube, resulting in closure of the tube as it heals. The suture then dissolves. The intial suture tying is most likely where the phrase ‘tying tubes’ came from.

Another common method is to burn the tubes with electrical energy (electrocoagulation). This is usually done by laparoscopic surgery and is usually done remote from pregnancy. Lastly, there are many devices- clips and bands – which can close off the tubes and cause a portion of the tube to be destroyed.

No matter how the procedure is done, the end result is obstruction of the fallopian tube that prevents pregnancy.

Many people believe that tubal sterilization is irreversible. Although bilateral tubal occlusion is intended to be permanent, the procedure can be reversed. Chapel Hill Tubal Reversal Center is the one medical facility that specializes exclusively in reversal of tubal ligation. We have become tubal ligation reversal experts………experts at untying tied tubes!

Submitted by Dr. Charles Monteith

Dr. Montieth’s Diary on Becoming a Tubal Reversal Specialist

Today we had another successful day of untying tubes. We began the day at 7AM. Four patients were scheduled for tubal ligation reversal surgery.

I was able to first assist Dr. Berger in the first three surgeries of the day, but had to leave prior to the fourth surgery. I am becoming proficient at identifying tubal anatomy and repairing tubes that have been tied.

The first patient had her tubes tied several years ago and she was now in a new relationship. Both she and her partner desired more children. They made the decision that they would undergo tubal ligation reversal and try to pursue their dream of having children together. Her surgery went well and we were able to successfully reverse her tubal ligation.

The second patient was similar to the first and desired more children. Her surgery also went well.

The third patient had her tubes tied, but after her surgery she lost a child to Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS). We often hear stories like this from many patients who come to Chapel Hill Tubal Reversal Center. It is extremely sad to hear the stories these patients tell. My heart aches for them as they try to replace their children and add to their family. Every time I hear these stories I think of my own children and what it would be like to experience such a loss. I can not fully imagine the pain from such loss but I can understand the strong desire to replace a cherished soul. I am happy to report that her surgery went extremely well and she had an excellent operative result. I take enjoyment out of every reversal surgery I have participated in, and feel an extra sense of accomplishment when assisting in untying tubes for patients who have lost children unexpectedly.

I had to leave before the fourth patient had surgery. Fortunately, I will be back in the morning for four more reversal surgeries and to meet four more interesting people and learn about their stories.

After my first meeting with Dr. Berger, I drove home and was ecstatic our conversation went so well. I did not know what to expect when I first visited the center but my visit was everything I could have hoped for. Immediately when I got home I told my wife about my experience. I had never told her about my previous dream so I also divulged to her my vision about my visit to Chapel Hill Tubal Reversal Center. She was amazed I even had such a dream because she is aware I am not a very superstitious person. To this day we still can not believe I had a dream foretelling the start of a new career.

Dr. Berger and I had several more meetings after our initial meeting. I was able to explain to him my career frustrations and my desire to become a tubal ligation reversal specialist. I was able to learn more about him, his background in infertility and in vitro fertilization, and his evolution towards becoming an exclusive provider of tubal ligation reversal surgery. Our meetings were productive and I became even more certain I wanted to become a specialist in tubal ligation reversal.

As I began to seriously consider transitioning to become a tubal ligation reversal specialist I began to realize several things about myself:

• As a physician I want to help people. I especially enjoy helping people obtain goals which are not easily available.
• I take enjoyment in doing surgeries other doctors are either afraid of or incapable of doing.
• I value letting patients make their own informed decisions. I have never felt the need to impose my beliefs upon other people. I rarely judge the decisions of others.
• I dislike hospitals. I feel they are unhealthy (for patients and doctors) and are loud, noisy places.
• I really enjoy working in outpatient, ambulatory surgery centers. I feel less confined than in the hospital environment.
• I like to be efficient. Being idle is extremely difficult for me.
• I can not take good care of others if I can not take good care of myself and family. Long nights, weekends, and poor medical outcomes began to gnaw away at one’s humanity and compassion.

It has been almost a year since I first met Dr. Berger and the staff at the Chapel Hill Tubal Reversal Center and started my path towards becoming a reversal specialist. I have realized many things about myself and my desires. I am eagerly looking forward to a career in helping women correct the misgivings of prior decisions.

After my dream of becoming a tubal reversal specialist, I emailed Dr. Berger to ask for his assistance in teaching me his techniques of outpatient tubal reversal microsurgery. I was a little reluctant to reach out and make contact but, as I previously mentioned, email is a great way to receive rejection.

When I received his return email I was afraid to open it. I thought I would click on the reply and read the typical – “Thanks for your interest but (fill in the blank) – we are not interested at this time.” Instead, I was astounded by his response. One line of his email is still vivid in my memory. The line read,

“I always thought one day I would be approached by the right person…..”

When I read this line in his email, I was ecstatic. I thought to myself, ‘Hey, that is me. I am the right person!’ I felt as is if I were a little high school boy who had his invitation to the prom accepted by the prettiest girl at school. These kinds of things never happen to me. I could not sleep well for several days because of my inner excitement.

The day came when I went to Chapel Hill Tubal Reversal Center for my first meeting with Dr. Berger. I was extremely tired because the night prior to our meeting had been a sleepless one since I had been on call in the hospital delivering babies.

I approached the building and entered through a passageway which led me into a courtyard. The first thing I remember was hearing the sound of a fountain echoing in the courtyard walls. It invoked a soothing feeling. The fountain was placed next to a set of stairs and was standing on a bed of small, rounded river rock. The stairs led up to the second level. I ascended the stairs to the second floor. I was extremely tired but I could not but help feel a sense of calmness within the courtyard. The experience brought back memories of being in church as a child. There was an overwhelming sense of peacefulness.

I entered the office and was seated by the receptionist. While I waited for Dr. Berger, I read through several of the photo albums in the waiting room. There were pictures of many tubal reversal babies and letters of thanks and encouragement. These photo albums seemed like the fruit of a fulfilling and successful career.

Dr. Berger came out to meet me and we went into his office and talked for about 45 minutes. I explained my desire to become a tubal ligation reversal specialist. He told me about his background and how he had come to specialize in tubal ligation reversal. His training, history, and career development were very interesting. I was especially interested in how he had evolved to solely provide such a specialized service. Although we were very different people, it became clear to me that we shared many common fundamental beliefs. Overall, I thought our meeting was very productive. At the conclusion, I shook his hand and thanked him for meeting with me. Since I knew he was busy (and I was tired) I expected to make a quick exit. As I was about to leave, Dr. Berger said, “Let me show you around.”

A strange feeling came over me. I quickly dismissed my strange feeling but readily took him up on the offer. He showed me the top office and waiting room. We then went outside, down the stairs, and past the fountain and decorative rocks. Again another strange feeling went through me- a sense of deja vu. He then showed me the break room with tables for eating, the operative rooms and the recovery room.

I was extremely impressed by two things. First, the entire place was absolutely the cleanest health care facility I had ever been in – I literally felt I could eat off the floor. Second, it was the quietest health care facility I had ever been in. I am used to noise, commotion, screaming, and yelling. I had never been in such a calm health care setting before.

At the conclusion of our tour, I shook his hand again and thanked him again for his time. I left and went to my car. As I started to put the keys into the ignition, I had to pause. I began to process what had happened. I began to investigate my sense of deja vu. I had been here before. I had seen this. I had done this before. It all began to come to me. This was the dream I had several weeks prior!

Then it all began to make sense. The two levels. The water and the fountain. The boulders. The table. The sense of happiness and calm……….these things never happen to me. I quickly suppressed these feelings. Why? I don’t know. I think I was afraid I was building this up to be more than it was or would ever be. I started the car and drove away.

Posted by Charles Monteith, MD

Divine Revelation and My Dream

A good idea, especially a really good idea, will make sense in every way. I began to analyze what a career as a tubal reversal specialist could mean for me. I could learn the surgical technique of tubal ligation reversal, which is gradually becoming a dying science and a lost art. In this process, I could help a large group of women regain both their fertility and wellness through tubal reversal. I could do all of the above and, at the same time, create a better, more fulfilling life for myself and my family. Once you examine all the angles and curves of a good idea and determine the piece fits perfectly within the puzzle of one’s life, then you begin to fill a sense of becoming more complete.

There was one problem. I had no way to credibly learn the techniques of tubal ligation reversal. I could apply for a fellowship in Reproductive Endocrinology (REI). This would mean three more years of training, mostly in In Vitro Fertilization (IVF) and I probably would not get any tubal ligation reversal surgical experience. A close friend of mine recently finished a fellowship in REI and he had done many rounds of IVF but only three tubal ligation reversals over three years time- that’s one per year! He now is a reproductive endocrinologist who expected to adequately counsel patients about reversal surgery and perform these surgeries on patients. Many patients wonder why their REI doctors advise IVF and not tubal ligation reversal. I quickly determined returning for a REI fellowship was not a good idea for me for many different reasons.

I put my idea of becoming a tubal ligation reversal specialist to rest for several weeks. My idea was never fully resting and was still evolving in the background of my mind. It still would not let me go.

What I am going to share next you will probably never hear from me again. Most people reading this have little idea who I am. I am not a superstitious person, nor am I an overly religious person. I can not explain what happened to me next in any way other than divine revelation.

I rarely remember my dreams; however, this one I will never forget. I went to bed thinking about a career in tubal ligation reversal and I had a dream which, I now realize, would foretell my future………

In my dream I met an older, somewhat chubby man with grayish hair. He was slightly balding and seemed content. He greeted me in front of his building which was partly his home and partly his office. He appeared proud of his creation. It was a two story building- split level. He took me on a tour. The top level appeared to be regular, albeit nice living quarters. The home was gorgeous and I don’t remember many details but I do remember a feeling of contentment and completeness. This gentleman then took me outside of the top level and down and across a courtyard. I remember several large boulders and a fountain with water. We crossed over the courtyard and entered the bottom level of the building which was large and appeared like a wine cellar cave. There was a large, rectangular wooden table with candlelight. A large group of people, approximately 10-20 people, were eating and appeared to be having a good time. I was not sure if they were friends or family but they seemed to all be getting along well. They looked up, acknowledged me, but kept on with their festivities………

The dream then came to and end. This was it, I had to leave, and this is what I vaguely remembered the next morning when I awoke.

Again, I am not much for dream interpretation so the next morning I put this dream to rest and continued with my daily life.

Several days later I decided to contact Dr. Berger at Chapel Hill Tubal Reversal Center. I called his office and asked for his email address. I was a little afraid to contact him but email is a good way to receive rejection.

I emailed him and his response floored me.

More to be continued……..

My path has taken me through four hard, long years of residency training- many days and nights in the hospital. My training can be summed up into two words- extreme exhaustion. As an attending physician, I had practiced high risk obstetrics and gynecology and had experienced many joyous and difficult moments. I have seen beautiful births and happy families, but I have also seen many seriously devastating events- one mother die and many babies die. The experience of many good things will lay over you like a warm blanket but the experience of any one, seriously bad event can deeply wound you. After ten years, the stressful events and long hours away from my growing children were beginning to take toll on me. I began to grow increasingly despondent. I began to feel both overwhelmed and unhappy.

Then a close friend was diagnosed with advanced breast cancer. Suddenly and within months, she was unable to work and was on a ventilator. Within two months she went from vibrant to not being able to hold a pen. She was a person I admired, looked up to and respected. She was a successful business woman and had influenced many lives by her work and her example. I was devastated and forced to reevaluate my path in life.

I found myself thinking, “You can work as hard as you want and be a successful as you can but it can all be taken away from you within moments- and without notice- and without any say from you.” It was then I decided I should do what I wanted to be happy and begin to work on a new formula that would redefine my personal sense of success. The only problem was I did not know what the formula would be.

During this same time, I had a chance encounter with a staff member of Chapel Hill Tubal Reversal Center. This was a totally random encounter that could have just as easily not occurred. During my training, I had periodically heard about Dr. Berger and his practice of tubal ligation reversal – but I never new much about the man and his practice. For ten years, I worked within twenty miles of Chapel Hill Tubal Reversal Center and had even referred patients to Dr. Berger but I really knew nothing about his work and his center.

During my brief conversations with the staff member, I was able to find out about the important work of tubal ligation reversal, the high quality of the tubal ligation reversal center, and that Dr. Berger was both an upstanding individual and a gentleman surgeon. I will admit these brief conversations were very interesting and amusing. They provided me information about a local doctor, whom I had heard about yet really new nothing about. These conversations were fun, but I really did not think any more about or discussions.

Good ideas are infectious. They get into your head and they will not leave. They eat at you until you deal with them. They stay with you and circulate in your head until you either act on them or let time gradually absolve them. This good idea was what happened to me after my chance encounter. This good idea was to think I could become a tubal ligation reversal physician.

I began to wonder if I could do tubal ligation reversals. I thought it could provide a new career path and a greater sense of personal fulfillment by helping others in need. This good idea began to breath life into me and it would not let me go……I had no idea of how much greater this idea would become and the divine revelation which I would later experience on my path to a career as a tubal ligation reversal specialist.

More to be continued……..